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GT500 vs 2009 Dodge Challenger - Which One's Better?

 
427SOHC 427SOHC
Administrator | Posts: 315 | Joined: 03/06
Posted: 07/08/08
11:19 AM

Apparently the brain trust at Motor Trend has struck again. In a face off between the two high performance sluggers, even though the GT500 outperformed the Challenger in every category, Motor Trend still picked the Challenger as the better car!

Sound off 5.0 Nation! What do you think of this garbage?  

 
6195.0 6195.0
Mustang IIs Rock! | Posts: 7 | Joined: 01/08
Posted: 07/11/08
03:51 PM

i completely agree with President Turner on this...im tired of the same *** they always got at motortrend, car and driver etc talking about the mustang with their "outdated" axles blah blah blah...put a cork on it already...dont be hating on the mustang cuz its THE best car the world has ever seen....not the fastest, the pretiest or cheapest, but just the BEST. Living legend in the flesh. Over and out Mr. President!  

 
Sharad Sharad
I grew a Turner ponytail | Posts: 90 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 07/12/08
12:29 PM

i can't believe they only put the automatic in the challenger this year...

My opinion of the cars? Challenger is pretty. GT500 is pretty and FAST!!!  
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Sharad Raldiris - 1989 LX 5.0

 
hurstaction hurstaction
Mustang IIs Rock! | Posts: 1 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 07/16/08
04:33 AM

What I think is funny about the whole thing is that they are saying on how good the challenger is with the irs.  In all honesty every real gear head is going to change that out for the oh so terrible straight axle anyway.       I own an 03 Cobra and i wish that ford would have used the straight axle in that car.  And besides anybody who doesn't think the supercharger whine isn't bad a## is a *** fool i think it's beautiful.  Not to mention that once you look at the stats of both cars on the last page the shelby beats the challenger on basically every thing  from the gas mileage, emissions, warranty, and weight.  

 
burnt89 burnt89
Mustang IIs Rock! | Posts: 1 | Joined: 08/08
Posted: 08/04/08
06:30 PM

I think its completely bogus, it is just because the mopar is new. There is no other reason as to why it would be a better car. So what if the supercharger whines, personally i like the sound, but if you dont last time i checked the mustang came with a radio so turn up the tunes and enjoy the superior sportscar. To add to the over hype of the new dodge, a guy in my town paid $26,000 over the listed price for his new Challenger and for that much money you could swap in IRS if you really wanted to.  

 
turbo306 turbo306
Mustang IIs Rock! | Posts: 3 | Joined: 08/08
Posted: 08/05/08
10:51 AM

Is anyone surprised by this?  It is Motor Trend, after all.  If the next gen Mustang rolled off the assembly wearing a Toyota badge on the grille, it would suddenly be a greater miracle than Moses parting the Red Sea.  Motor Trend has long been staffed by Japanese and Euro n*tswingers who look down upon anything American, simply because that's the "in" thing to do (I realize we're talking about a comparison between two American cars, but the observation is still valid.  Motor Trend staffers have historically had as much intellectual honesty as your average college PoliSci professor).  What they seem blissfully unaware of is the fact that out here in the real world, their opinion holds zero relevance to those of us who actually drive our cars.  And now, if you'll excuse me, I think I'll take my pre-historic, ill handling (and undoubtedly looked down upon by the fine folks at Motor Trend), carb'd 88 notchback for a spin around the block.  

 
Darkstar_ Darkstar_
Mustang IIs Rock! | Posts: 2 | Joined: 08/08
Posted: 08/05/08
12:22 PM

I find it interesting that you are all complaining so vehemently, w/o even reading the article. (Maybe reading is too hard, for you... complaining IS easier...)
IF you HAD, you'd have learned that whilst the Mustang's statistical (track) numbers may marginally best the Challenger, the solid axle and twitchy handling of the Mustang made for a less stable, less manuverable car, on the road.
Sure, if every "gearhead" only wanted a stright-line dragster, the Mustang would have won. But, in the REAL World, roads turn and cars must, as well. Roads aren't always smooth, either, but, our cars need to hold onto them, just the same.
This is why almost any IRS sporty car, can out manuver the solid-axle 'stang, in the twisties. It's also why some of us love the old 'stangs for what they were, and wish the new 'stangs weren't just more of the same old thing.
It is also why the Challenger beat the GT500.  

 
turbo306 turbo306
Mustang IIs Rock! | Posts: 3 | Joined: 08/08
Posted: 08/05/08
02:09 PM

Read it beginning to end, thanks.  Maybe you should avoid jumping to conclusions yourself (perhaps believing that someone can form an opinion different than yours when given the same information is too hard for you... jumping to conclusions IS easier ).  Most "gearheads" (and perspective Mustang buyers) want a straight line machine.  That's what Ford attempts to provide.  By your thinking, I could compare a new Shelby to, oh, say a new Porsche Cayman S, but would that be an honest comparison?  Being the drag racer that I am I would obviously pick the Shelby as the winner of that contest, but for what purpose?  The Porsche is not a straight line machine, never has been, never will be, which is fine because the average Porsche buyer is not a drag racing enthusiast.  In short, the Mustang has never been and probably never will be the car Motor Trend, and you apparently, want it to be.  The obvious remedy would be for you to buy yourself a nice, civilized BMW 335i, or even a new Challenger, and let the straight line crowd have our fun.  Considering that the car is closing on 45 years of continuous production, I'd say the "same old thing" is working out fairly well.

By the way, people have been driving straight line machines in the real world for for somewhere around 60 years now, give or take, and so far, civilization has not crumbled.  I think if the old 'Stang continues along with its archaic straight axle, somehow, life will go on.  In spite of what Motor Trend may think.  

 
Darkstar_ Darkstar_
Mustang IIs Rock! | Posts: 2 | Joined: 08/08
Posted: 08/07/08
07:46 AM

"Most "gearheads" (and perspective Mustang buyers) want a straight line machine."

I'll agree most Mustang buyers better want a straight line machine... 'cause that's all they're really getting. Gearheads like myself, on the other hand, want a car that can handle it all.
I've had several Mustangs over the years, and when I did, I thought they were the greatest, too. I still love them. BUT, as others have evolved into better road beasts, the Mustang stayed more one dimesional. Frankly, I'd love another Mustang for it's looks... but, drag racing was my thing as a kid... and, I've grown to demand much more capability in my cars, now. Especially as, where I drive most, it's primarily old mountain roads.
Don't get me wrong, here... I am NOT, and never will, "trash talk" a 'stang... and, I very much respect its place, as the ONLY Pony to remain on the market from it's inception, until now. But, I cannot understand the mindset of people who refuse to accept it's no longer able to keep up with the competion, except on a drag strip.
Your comments show, that you have accepted this... and want it to be, just the way it is. Great !!!
However, to think the MAJORITY of people prefer this, or spend any time, at all, drag racing, is to ignore reality... and, so is thinking a Mustang is better in the twisties, than the new Challenger.
"In short, the Mustang has never been and probably never will be the car Motor Trend, and you apparently, want it to be.  The obvious remedy would be for you to buy yourself a nice, civilized BMW 335i, or even a new Challenger, and let the straight line crowd have our fun."
As I've indicated, the Mustang WAS once my favorite... and, I wish it still could be. But, (while I'll never buy a BMW, or MB to show off) I DID buy a new Challenger. And, whilst I've only dragged her twice, so far, she's a pretty solid hook-up, in her own right.
I just think Motor Trend picked the better overall handling car, for the majority of their readers, rather than the better car for the strip. (Where the Challenger is still, no slouch.) Is that so wrong...? Motor Trend isn't really for the drag racing crowd; their company puts out other magazines (like this one), for that audience.  

 
gdiesel2k2 gdiesel2k2
Mustang IIs Rock! | Posts: 1 | Joined: 08/08
Posted: 08/07/08
09:17 PM

well you can get a mustang to out handle a porsche for th eamount you paid for it take an extra 3000-9000 and it will be a track killer everheard of steeda, gr-40, maximum motorsports. oh let me not forget a steeda certified gt500 that will that will hang with every other car calling thousand's more. so before you start bashing the mustang you might need to read your facts just like it is winning in europe and the us in races with it's live axle so i would take a mustang over any other sports car. take a base model gt add a little suspension tweak and your killing an evo, take a gt500 and a little suspension twek and your crushing anything less than a high end sportscar especially porsche catch my drift. so if you are a true gear head then you would probably know this.  

 

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