AOD to TKO conversion ? opinion!

You should be well into the 12's with the charger. You might get close with the stick. Because like I said you should be a lot faster then you ran last time out. I have nitto's on my car. They are a really good tire. You will still have to take it easy out of the hole once you put in the stick. Because they are a radial tire. They can't take the hit of a stick car. Take your Roadrunner. Tach it up to 3 grand and let the clutch fly. It's like bang and going ape *** Your Mustang doesn't leave that hard at all. The AOD hits the tires a lot softer then the stick will. I have a set of ET Streets for the track. There only 15" so I have a lot more and softer side wall to take the shock. The Nitto's are very good once you get the car moving though. You might just have to slip the clutch out of the hole then nail it down.  

Thanks  the reason I rebuilt the motor in the roadrunner is because of a 3 grand clutch drop.  I snapped a finger on the clutch and once I shut it off it jumped timing when I started it back up.  but the 3G clutch drop laid a posi burnout all but 6 feet down the WHOLE block.to say the least I couldn't beleive I was listening to the tires squeal that long but I impressed a big group of people so I guess it was worth it because now it has almost double the horsepower. unfortunately the mustang doesn't have that much torque but they get pretty slippery out the back. I have a video where my stang put a set of pirellis (with about 50% tread left but they were free) down with about 5-6 inches of wire sticking out. and a few more feet they would have blown.  I thought one did because I heard the wires and the were so distorted I thought one let go.  I think the stick is just gonna be so much more fun to drive.  what kind of supercharger do you have.  I want a vortech S-trim or whichever puts out a more effecient boost.  ( I really want a kenne belle but i am not spending 3500 dollars on one) I am looking to stay between 1000-1600.  I see some on ebay for around that.  

I would have liked to seen that burnout with the Roadrunner. It really sucks that it caused damage to the motor though, but hey it's only money. Besides it going to be a lot faster now. I tell myself the same s###. I have an old Procharger P-600B on my car. It has the small 2 core intercooler on it, and 11 psi pulley. I see right about 10 psi just before I shift. I love the Kenne Bell for the 4.6 cars, but I'm not so sure about the one for our motors. I don't think it makes big Hp#'s like it does for the 4.6 cars. They're totally different blowers. I like the S trim. I like the Novi 2000 too. With the novi you can go from mild to wild with just a pulley change. The kenne bell is $3800 but if you think about it. It's not that bad. You wouldn't need to go out and get a intake. So it is really cheaper for people that still have a stock motor. If you were going to keep the AOD then I'd say look into the KB blower, or a roots type blower like it, but you want the stick so I'd say Vortech, Paxton, or Procharger. Take your pick. I really like the newer Procharger P1sc. From what I've read about it. It looks like it can put out some nice power too. My blower has been on the car for 8 years and no problems with it at all. So I do like Procharger for that alone. What till you get the stick and the blower in the car.  You'll love it. All burnouts are done in 2nd gear. I let the clutch go some where around 2500 3 grand, and the car just goes nuts. It's great..  

Unfortunately I don't have evidence of the RR burnout except for the black marks on the road, bent valves and pushrods.  but maybe someday I can get my mustang video loaded on the computer and post it to you. It was quite a site.  are the vortec SC-trim any good I haven't heard much about them.  I like the sounds of the s-trim. and heard the novi 200 are good too.  I am   like you I like the procharger because it is intercooled but unfortuantely I don't have 3 grand to put into it.  I have to get my front bumpercover and hood repainted on the stang and need heads and exhaust for the RR so 3grand is out of the picture but I could do 1600 or maybe 2000 tops for a good one and for that money I would like a new one but if I found a good low milage used one I would go that route also.  Did you install the procharger yourself?  did it take long? easy or hard. 

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I'd like to see that video. Someone should be able to put it on a disk for you. SCtrim?? Do you mean the new SQ??? I don't remember there being a SC trim. The Procharger was a pain in the A## to install. I helped do the install but I didn't do it all by my self. I went to a really good old time drag racer for help with the install. He was Bob Hanlon's crew chief. Bob runs a Hot Street car. Jim was very good but it had to be perfect. If he saw something that he didn't like he would find a way to make it better. Which I thought was a good thing. The battery had to be moved to the passanger side. We had to cut part of the bumper bracket for the intercooler. Moved the mass air meter to the drivers side fender well. Punch a hole in the oil pan for the return line. Remove the window washer set up and install this half a##ed thing instead. I don't remember how long it took, but it seemed like forever. It could have been done faster if we had done one before, but we took are time to get it right.  How much do you think you could get for your TKO conversion set up? I had an idea for a killer set up for you car but it would be better with an automatic behide it instead of a stick. Plus you would have to wait and keep saving to do it, but it should put you deep into the 11's.  

If I found a buyer I think the tko set up is worh $1700 It has a kevlar  motorsports clutch and the tranny is worth a lot and the onlything it lacks is an inspection shield which is on the way the first of the year and a 31 spline slip yoke If I found a buyer I am interested in some ideas.  What did you have in mind  

Well, that would be a nice start. You would still have to do some saving, or find stuff to put the kit together. Can you say Turbo? I was thinking what blower would I get if I had it to do over again. I was thinking Paxton Novi, but the thing is that you don't see full boost untill redline. Like my Procharger when I'm riding around and want to get into it. I'll mat the gas and only be pulling 5 or 6 psi. If I'm in the right gear. Turbo's give you full boost early, and keep it there all the way to redline. They don't take any horsepower to turn. There also easier to turn up the boost. Get a boost controller and put some race gas in then turn the knob. You could run say 6psi to 8 psi on the street. Then with race gas turn it up to 12psi or 15psi and go well into the 11's maybe 10's. I think your AOD is setup perfict for a turbo. Plus how many turbo cars do you see running around the streets. I don't see any, but there are tons of blower cars around. Bottom line is if I had it to do over again I'd go with a turbo.  It's something else to think about anyway.  

Thats a good idea I knew about the turbos but they are very expensive I could buy another car for the same money and wrestled with another one 3 weeks ago for 5G that had  new motor almost identicle to mine plus a powerdyne and nos but i wanted to keep mine.  THere is one around here with twin turbos on it its a convertible like mine and he blew 5 tremecs and finally put an aod init

I don't know that it would cost 5 grand to do. Maybe if you wanted all the bells and wissles. I was reading in MM&FF about the guy who put a twin turbo setup on his Fairmont. He got the turbo's from old Turbo Coupes. I've seen some company selling the headers and the hole kit, minus the turbo for like 1700 or something. I don't know if read the story about the Fairmont, but it flys. 9's with a setup not much different the your's. If you didn't read the story you should. I think it's on there web site. I know you really want the stick. I know where you're coming from. I don't know what the deal is with guy that broke 5 tremmecs, but I think your TKO should do ok with a turbo. The money from it would really help get you started with the turbo that's all.  

Yeah I really want a stick. so I think i am gonna keep it.  The turbos are a good alternative and more unique.  I just got some subframes and bought a strut tower brace that should help stiffen it up some.  I ordered my shifter. now i need is the king cobra clutch and the aluminum driveshaft and i am set.  I would like a set of saleen wheels but i know they will add a lot of weight and my car is heavy enough but it would be nice to corner again.  THe welds make it look tough and it moves along good but it would be nice to have the handling of the GT and not the same as my s10. it will cost the same wheels or supercharger.  I will put a power adder on it eventually.  I even thought about Cobra R's but they are so popular but on the other hand they look good and don't cost much.  I really think the stick with my combo is gonna make an awsome street car.  it only sees the track once 2-5 times a year. It really shines on the street.  I still have to repaint the front bumper cover and have the hood buffed. So I think i am gonna get the five speed in it and get the appearance done first so i can still show it. ( I took home  first place trophie at an all mustang of 258 mustangs last june for best in class) I can drive it with the stick and the appearance done and add the power adder later unless i get a good a$$ deal on a supercharger then i could drive it with a little blem on the front of the hood and the bumper.  

That's good too. I was just throwing out ideas. I know what you mean about running around with the welds. This kid bought my friend's 88 Lx rare T top car. It had mass air conversion, an 8 point roll bar, the suspension was all done, and a 2 stage 150hp shot of nitrous. Anyway my friend had 15x5's on the front of it. This kid took them off and put on 15x3's. Well he went hauling a## into a turn and didn't turn. He went straight into a tree. Totaled the car. I keep the stock wheels on my car. I have a set of Bogart's for when I take it to the track. I bought a set of Centerline's for the cobra but they don't fit. Just as well though. I love to blast on the back roads to much. I know I'd have a problem if I had race wheels on the car all of the time. I like the cobra R's but EVERYONE has them. Did you think about a change to 5 lug? That would open up a lot more wheels to you. As far as a power adder goes. Nothing beats nitrous for the bang for the buck. Low 12's should be no problem with a 125 shot, and it should be safe on your motor. Just don't get greedy with it that's how people get into trouble with it. I think it's cool that you won a show with your stang. My car isn't nice enough for a show. I go to a lot of cruise nights, but not shows. I need to get the car painted, and the drivers seat is showing some wear. The wheels are getting beat too.  

my front tires are like 6in wide, from my pinky to my thumb.  Performance wheel has some saleen look alikes and they are 4 lug but are 930 a set for 17X9 Chrome those are what i want but i might get the cobras because the are so cheap and look good.  If i could sell the welds for like 700 (they have all four new rubber) then I would for sure order the ones i want.  the welds look nice and look tough.  THose saleens would look tight and then i would put steeda sport springs to improve the handling.  Then i could take the curves at some high speeds and hold right to it.  the welds i why i have to repaint my bumper cover the locked up to easy.  You have an advantage that the cobra has different wheels that are rare.  I have some other wheels they just don't look as good. The more i think about it i think i am gonna get wheels/handling with the five speed first then i'll fix the bumper then get a power adder.  Nitrous is cool but it seems like after a couple bottles the bottle heater and the kit you are over half way to a supercharger. if u don't mind what does your cobra run the quarter?

I don't think that 930 for a set is all that bad. To replace my wheels it will cost me 960. It's true that the Cobra R's are cheap, but that's why everyone has them. You're right about nitrous adding up to the price of a supercharger after refilling some bottles. I don't think you should keep it if you were to get it. If you could find a cheap kit off of E-bay. Then it would help you beat up on your friends till you could get your blower. Then sell it for what ever you could get back out of it. If you put on a good set of springs to help your car to handle. Then you'll be hurting your 1/4 mile times. If handling is more important that's find, but it hard to have a car that take's turn great and does well on the drag strip. I almost forgot the RoadRunner. You can have your cake and eat it too. The RR could be your drag car and the Mustang the corner carver. Not bad. I know I'd be happy with it... My Cobra was only at the track once with the blower on the car and it went 12.79 at 109. With a 1.98 60ft time. I know the car has more in it, but I've never had a proper tune up in it. My coupe is close to being done, but it's been close to being done for over a year now. That car better go 11's out of the box or I 'm going to blow it up trying. After I get the coupe on the road I'm going to put nitrous to it and go for low 10's. Then I'll be done with that, and start looking for some old muscle car. I think I'll need to hit the lottery first though.  

I will probably go with the other wheels for 930 just for that reason.  it'll take an extra 2weeks to get the other 400 and they are different. not too many saleen wheels on a four lug fox body. unless i get a real cheap deal on the cobras that i can't afford to pass up. on the bright side i have another four months to save up.  I use the road runner just like the mustang to drive  and to show but i hardly drive it. this summer will m be gentle so i can break it in properly.  If the steeda springs hurt my E.T. i can live with that because my car spends most of its life on the street and it shouldn't lose that much et for the gain. I'll have a car that looks sweet and hauls a$$ in the process.  I'll keep my eye on a cheap nitrous kit.  I have a cMcCleod ceramic clutch disc for a TKO that has less than 100 miles on it with hardly any wear that i a have to try to sell.  I thought i could use it but turns out it isn't the best alternative for everyday use. No of any buyers $30.  I see a kenne bell blower on ebay with less than 1000 miles on it for a GT40 intake for 1800 i am watching i may borrow money for that that would be sweet. as for your coupe 11's shouldn't be that hard.  which motor.  My friend had a 90 notchback that had a 331 stroker with and anderson cam (i thank B-41 but wouldn't swear to it) AFR 185 heads and a four barrel.  Had a 3000 stall converter on an AODE with a C-6 shaft. 3.73 eibach drap springs with  28" Hoosiers it ran 11.80's off motor and 10.88 on spray. if that gets any ideas rolling  

Unless you get a deal that's to good to be true I'd say hold out for the Saleen's. 1800 for a Kenne Bell? Wow, that's sounds really good. Do keep an eye on it. That would be perfict for what you want to do with the car. My coupe has a 308 in it, an Anderson N51p cam, with AFR 165 heads, a Weiand Stealth intake, and a holly 650 DP carb. I have Kooks 1 3/4 headers, 2 1/2" x pipe, and Dynomax race mufflers with turn downs. I told you about the TKO in it. That will be proshifted as soon as I get the money to do it. The rear has 33 spline Moser axles with c-clip elem., and 4.30 gears. The back suspension is done. It has Mega Bite uppers, and Mega Bite JR. lowers. I have the Eibach drag springs in the back with the airbag, and Lakewood drag shocks. Up front isn't done yet. All that's up there is a Flaming river manual rack. I plan on coming out of the hole at 5 gran and shifting at 6500. The car has a second fuel system to be hooked up with nitrous, but I don't have a kit yet. This guy wanted to trade me a NOS Big Shot kit (used). For my (new) Centerline's. All 6 of them. I have two fronts and 4 backs. I'm thinking now, maybe I should have done it. I can't use the Ceanterline's at all so they sit here and gather dust. I have a ton of money wraped up in wheels. That I don't use. I have a set of Bogarts for the Cobra, but they're track only, and I don't take it to the track anymore. I still need to buy a set of Weld Prostars for the coupe. Hey, it's only money.